On the 5th June 2005 there is going to be a votation about legalising partnership among homosexuals. Switzerland is giving a possibility for homosexuals to have a legal paper stating their status. You have to know that this partnership is not a marriage. Below are the differences between both status:
Like Marriage
- no discrimination regarding: taxes, housing, retirement
- in case of the visit in the emergency room, the partner is concidered as family memeber (!!)
- in case of death, the partner is erning the will and is first on the list
- requires a legal divorce
- there is no "fiancé/e" nor "Yes, i do!" word
- there is no common last name
- no easy entitlment for a citizenship or passport, in case the partner is a foreigner
- no adoption or artificial insimination allowed
Right now, i believe that homosexual relationships are unstable. Many are having several partners in their lives if not during a relationship already...! The "moral" of monogamy is very tiny, in my opinion. Be it for lesbians as for gays.
In order to have some other point of views, let me give you examples for both side of the world.
Gays
Some of my gay friends, even if they are "married", they are still seeing other guys at the same time. Sometimes it may be settled like that within their relationship, which is fine as long as they protect themselves. Yet, there are other gays in a relationship who will see some others without their partner(s) knowing. Thank god some of them protect themselves, but unfortunatelly, there are plenty (still!) who don't.
In Singapore we have those so called Saunas, where the gays meet every day just for a simple "f***". They only pay an entry fee of about S$5 (SFr. 3.00), you receive a tiny face towel (...), you walk into a dark area and what happens in there is absolutely up to you. "You can sit in a corner and just wait until a cock passes by you" said one of my gay friend, who is married to his boyfriend of 10 years.
The profile of the "gay male" is really bad unfortunatelly. This constant "F****** around" doens't give them the right credit for some, who are not part of this category.
In my opinion, i think that the last category i have mentioned is a minority of the minority.
Lesbians
Since i am in Singapore i have been constantly shocked about the differences in "labels" that exist. "What are labels?" you may ask. Strangely even in the homosexual community there are discriminations of a different kind...! There are several basic labels to know:
- Butch - more masculine type. Gestures and the way of talking very much like a guy. Some of them also bind their breast flat.
- Femme - very feminine type. Make-up, mini skirt etc. Girlish behaviors.
- Andro - can be both types. They are neither butch nor femme. They may look more masculing, but their behaviors are feminine. They can look feminine, but can act tomboyish. Most of the andro really don't care about thelabels.
In each category there are 1-3 more sub-categories of labels, which make the entire labeling system a bit confusing. Hence, i shall not go into these now.
Their lifestyle varies quite a bit from the gays. Lesbians are more likely to be either jobless or not really motivated in having a career. They are "the dreamy" types. I think it is due to their feminine nature of being very sensitive and emotional. Hence, many unfortunatelly react very badly to break-ups, which lead some to suicide.
These are a few informations on the different lifestyles of both gay sexes.
Their lifestyle varies quite a bit from the gays. Lesbians are more likely to be either jobless or not really motivated in having a career. They are "the dreamy" types. I think it is due to their feminine nature of being very sensitive and emotional. Hence, many unfortunatelly react very badly to break-ups, which lead some to suicide.
These are a few informations on the different lifestyles of both gay sexes.
I believe that this partnership will allow homosexuals to find a stability in where they can rely on like everyone does. Give "monogamy" its definition back and give them the possibility of getting responsible of their life without being discriminated.
Sadly, many believe it is not necessary to give them such "priviledge". Some still believe it is "a public offence", like Singapore still bans any gay activity openly. Yet, the Singapore government got a bit more open to this subkect than 4 years ago, where it was difficult to just use the word "homosexual".
Questions
(please state the number you are responding to, if you do answer these questions in the comment box. Thank you!)
- Do you believe it can help the straight society in understanding homosexuals?
- Can this new law improve the responsibilities among homosexuals?
- Would you vote for "yes" or "no" for this initiative? Explain why.
5 comments:
Hello,
I'm Ai from Japan, I happen to come across your blog, read your post on legalising homosexuality and clearly, you seem to be passionate about this subject. It is interesting, nonetheless, as all contemporary worldly issues gravitate towards..Allow me to contribute my humble views.
I shall cut straight to the chase. In my opinion,homosexuality is clearly sinful and a profound mistake, especially when humans are not homosexuals by nature. People become homosexuals because of their environments.
Human instincts can be subjected to acts of will. Sexuality is based on a choice of identity, which develops into actions and hence, sexual fantasies. Human beings are especially able to control their thoughts, entertaining some and dismissing others. However, if this free will is not recognized and utilised in the correct manner,it is easy to get into a cycle of thinking which starts from accepting a hypothesis about yourself as true, rather than as a possible choice.
This is even if the options are sometimes difficult. For example: "I am lazy," could be supposed true by someone. When the person who thinks this, lays around in bed in the morning, he observes this inaction as evidence of the statement: "I am lazy." As he repeatedly chooses to do so, the evidence mounts and the idea becomes fixed in his identity.
This may even have physical manifestations and cause some changes to his/her physiological and psychological nature. This process can easily occur for any idea good or bad about the self which is based largely on evidence resulting from ones own action. The idea may be "I am gay" or "I am content" or "I love eating lots of food."
Homosexuality is a deviation from one’s natural disposition and a departure from the natural order. If the trend in the West is to legalize this conduct, it should be noted that such things did not materialize until after religious values had been diluted and had been changed to relative values that glorify individuality and make pleasures as an end and aim.
Furthermore the confusion about the concept of the Hereafter and other issues gives rise to confusion about sexuality and hence the occurrence of this anarchy; From here covetousness and greed arose to push for the establishment of numerous industries built for the purpose of stirring up passions such as sexual tourism, the making of lewd films, the promotion of sexually gratifying instruments and other things. The result is the destructions of the concept of family and its values and confusion arose about appropriate kinds of relationships between males and females to the point that we see families being formed from two males or two females.
Thinking of the wisdom behind prohibiting homosexuality and lesbianism, the following can be said:
First, such acts lead to the spread of passivity among the young generation and destruction of their morality.
Second, it destroys the lives of women whose husbands leave them in pursuit of this perversion and they, in turn, try to find a way to satisfy their sexual needs. In such case, the whole society will be chaos.
Third, it is a fierce attack on progeny and pregnancy,whose natural order is to increase the human race.
Fourth, the dangerous diseases that are caused by it are unavoidable and fatal. Homosexual men suffering from HIV/AIDS also suffer from other cancers and lymphomas. One study published in the Annuls of Medicine noted the connection between homosexual AIDS patients and Hodgkin’s disease. The study concluded, “An excess incidence of Hodgkin’s disease was found in HIV-infected homosexual men.” The Journal of Clinical Oncology published a study that further supports a connection between homosexual male AIDS patients and Hodgkin’s disease.
Homosexual males are also at elevated risk for anal cancer. A likely possibility is that chemicals in the lubricants used to facilitate anal intercourse are a factor associated with this disease. Researchers R.J. Ablin and R. Stein-Werblowsky describe sperm and seminal plasma as capable of promoting cancer, and suggest that this accounts for the increase in cancer among people practicing anal sex.
One article in the New England Journal of Medicine commented, "Our study lends strong support to the hypothesis that homosexual behavior in men increases the risk of anal cancer: 21 of the 57 men with anal cancer (37 percent) reported that they were homosexual or bisexual, in contrast to only one of 64 controls." The Journal of the American Medical Association also published similar findings: "Epidemiological studies have shown that risk factors for anal cancer include homosexuality, history of receptive anal intercourse, presence of anal condylomata, and smoking." And the International Journal of Cancer stated, "Being single and having practiced anal intercourse appears to be associated with anal cancer and case reports have suggested a recent increase in the number of cases of anal cancer."
Another article published in the Journal of the American Medical Association stated that, “…studies indicate that immunosuppressed male homosexuals have a high prevalence of anal human papilomavirus infection and anal intra-epithelial neoplasia, and this population may be at significant risk for the development of anal cancer.”
Along the same lines, an article in the New England Journal of Medicine concluded: “Anal intercourse may predispose to anal cancer through the transmission of an infection, most probably infection with human papillomavirus.”
Homosexuals are not at all different from those who have been conditioned to fornicate, or commit theft or murder, or who have become addicted to watching pornography. All of these are destructive habits that one learns through continuous exposure or conditioning. So one must ask himself whether he would prefer to continue in this destructive behavior or change himself?
In conclusion,there is no doubt that this act of making men content with men and women with women,goes against the pure human nature,by adversely affecting the birth rate, causing the spread of killer diseases, harming the innocence when children are raped,and generally spreading corruption on earth, should be uprooted and stamped out.
Dear Ai...
Thank you for your humble point of view and taking some time in commenting my issue on "LEGALISING HOMOSEXUAL PARTNERSHIPS IN SWITZERLAND".
I am still interested in your answers regarding the questions i did mention in my issue, though.
I believe that question number 3 is a clear "No" if i refere to your comments.
But let me ask you more questions:
1. Do you know of any homosexuals for you to state all that you've mentioned so nicely?
2. You've mentioned about the environment they are living in. Which ones are they, can you cite some?
3. Do you believe that heterosexuals are less likely to get HIV virus and Anal Cancer? (There are plenty of heterosexuals having anal intercourse.)
4. Does that mean that heterosexuals have no sexual fantasies that they act on?
5. How would you prevent any sexual deseases? Complete restriction of sexual intercourse from the hetero and from the homosexual parts?
6. Wouldn't that resolve to no population??
7. Don't you think there are plenty of orphans in the world who could be adopted by straight AND homosexual couples? Reason being that there are unfortunately heterosexual couples not being able to have children at all. Do you consider these people as murderer too?
Please do answer these questions, if you have time. As you've mentioned in your first paragraphe, "i am very passionate about this subject".
Hi there,
It was interesting reading your article and the response from 'ai'...just thought I'd put in my 2 cents worth!
Well, I guess naturally I'd have more to say about homosexuals, being that I actually AM one, as opposed to the point of view of some uninformed, clueless, stereotyping, bordering on homophobic person. Or you could look at it another way and say I'm biased, well either way, I can only tell you how I feel based on who I am..so here goes.
Qn 1) Do you believe that it can help the straight society in understanding homosexuals?
Firstly, I believe that people's perceptions of homosexuals are largely based on stereotypes and generalizations, which may have stemmed from personal experience, stories you've heard, through the media etc. As is human nature, people begin to actually believe that ALL homosexuals are sexually promiscuous, that ALL homosexuals have some form of sexually transmitted disease, ALL homosexuals cannot lead a stable and meaningful existance with or without their partners.
The first step in abolishing some of these negative perceptions is by opening up your mind, seeing that not every gay man sits in a sleazy sauna waiting for some action. Not every lesbian is an unemployed 'daydreamer'. In fact the biggest concept that society will face problems internalizing is that THERE ARE NO LABELS WHEN IT COMES TO SEXUALITY. You cannot always tell a person's sexual identity just by looking at them. They could be short, tall, attractive, effeminate, manly, successful, jobless...whatever. The fact is that homosexual people are just that. People. And nobody, whatever the sexual orientation would like to be labelled and judged just because of their choices.
So, yes, I do believe that it would be beneficial to society, if such generalizations and pre-conceived notions about homosexual people were somehow diminished, through increased exposure and knowledge about the subject.
Qn 2) Can this new law improve the responsibilities among homosexuals?
Responsibilities will be fulfilled or neglected by an individual regardless of his or her sexual orientation. A father and husband could go for a business trip abroad and during that time engage in sexual acts with a prostitute. A lesbian couple raises a child in a loving and caring environment. Is it really fair to say that if you are a homosexual individual, you are destined to not take your personal responsibilities seriously? That you are destined for a life of promiscuity and deviance from society's norms? I do not believe that this law will increase responsibility among homosexuals as those who have the moral foundations and drive to lead fulfilling lives will follow their responsibilities regardless of whether or not such laws apply. And although these abovementioned laws apply to all heterosexual people, there are still a high percentage of people who do not see the importance in following them and who still go on with unsavoury practices normally frowned upon by society.
However, on the other hand, not coming up with excuses for some of the negative behaviour of some gay people, but perhaps an absence of these laws (which symbolise equality and acceptance by society) have driven these people to lives of social and moral deviance. Perhaps the thought 'why should I be part of a society which doesn't accept me as a worthy member' has made this small percentage of people jaded and unwilling to assimilate. Maybe the opening up of avenues for them to lead stable lives which will be supported by the state and the rest of their country will encourage them to 'settle down'
Qn 3)Would you vote for "yes" or "no" for this initiative?
Personally, I would say yes. I would say I am a relatively stable person, not unemployed, nor a daydreamer, utterly devoted to my partner of 4 years, and I intend to lead a happy and 'normal' life, raise a family and have a successful career etc. The initiative would give me the tools to do so. However, whether or not it does come about, I still believe that no matter what I will always be an outsider to society have come to terms with the fact that neither the government nor society is going to support me just because of my sexual orientation. I hardly see it as a threat to the human race...I find it highly unlikely that human beings will die off and become extinct just because homosexuals are allowed to marry...
cheers and all the best with your project!
=]
Hello Ai,
First of all, I’m a hetero...
Second, you’ve got a pretty tough opinion and you seem really harsh on homosexuals... Why do you hate them so? Did you have bad experiences or what is your problem with them?
Anyway, let me now state my humble views to your humble ones...:
This is what you wrote:
"In my opinion,homosexuality is clearly sinful and a profound mistake, especially when humans are not homosexuals by nature. People become homosexuals because of their environments."
Already now, I can tell you that this theory that „people become homosexuals because of their environments“ is wrong. There are three main theories of why people become homosexuals and one of these is the one you state. But this theory has already been empiricaly falsified. I suggest you to get your informations from updated sources....
"Human instincts can be subjected to acts of will. Sexuality is based on a choice of identity, which develops into actions and hence, sexual fantasies. Human beings are especially able to control their thoughts, entertaining some and dismissing others. However, if this free will is not recognized and utilised in the correct manner,it is easy to get into a cycle of thinking which starts from accepting a hypothesis about yourself as true, rather than as a possible choice.
This is even if the options are sometimes difficult. For example: "I am lazy," could be supposed true by someone. When the person who thinks this, lays around in bed in the morning, he observes this inaction as evidence of the statement: "I am lazy." As he repeatedly chooses to do so, the evidence mounts and the idea becomes fixed in his identity.
This may even have physical manifestations and cause some changes to his/her physiological and psychological nature. This process can easily occur for any idea good or bad about the self which is based largely on evidence resulting from ones own action. The idea may be "I am gay" or "I am content" or "I love eating lots of food." "
Oh come on!... Are you really comparing „being lazy“ with „being homo“?? Ok, so if I’m telling myself that „I am blond and have blue eyes“ then I will really become that???
Anyway let’s just assume that you’re right... and that being homosexual is a result of ones controlled thought or as you state „a choice of identity“. If it is so, then homosexuals should be able to „re-become“ heterosexuals, right? Well, in science you will read that this is impossible! Many homosexuals have tried to deny their sexuality because of people like you. But even with the help of therapies with professionals, they didn’t succeed! Now you tell me, why? Why can’t they just tell themselves „I am a hetero, I am a hetero..!“ and become a heterosexual „again“? (And this is not a rethorical question, I’d really like an answer from you!)
"Homosexuality is a deviation from one’s natural disposition and a departure from the natural order. If the trend in the West is to legalize this conduct, it should be noted that such things did not materialize until after religious values had been diluted and had been changed to relative values that glorify individuality and make pleasures as an end and aim. "
I agree that homosexuality is not the „natural order“ in the concept of evolution theory. But how come homosexuality is widely known among mammals and birds? And as far as I know they don’t have a society which influences them to choose to be gay.
Further homosexuality is not a product of the West and is not a new thing at all. Did you know that, in old Japan and China, same-sex love was even seen as the purest form of love? By the way, I’m quite surprised to hear such intolerant opinions from a Japanese... don’t you read Mangas? I heard a lot about Yaoi. Aren’t they popular there? And just to inform you, I’ve never seen so many gays and transvestites/-sexuals anywhere else as in Asia, even in those countries where homosexuality is against the law, so you can’t blame the West for just being more tolerant and open-minded than Asia.
You also write: „ [....]it should be noted that such things did not materialize until after religious values had been diluted and had been changed to relative values that glorify individuality and make pleasures as an end and aim.“
Did not materialize? What exactly do you mean by „materialize“? Did not „happen“? If so, here’s a list of historic men, who were gay: Alexander The Great, Leonardo DaVinci, Michaelangelo, to cite some... I’m sure they were veeeeeeery religious ;-)
„[...] the confusion about the concept of the Hereafter and other issues gives rise to confusion about sexuality and hence the occurrence of this anarchy“
Now YOU confuse me! Does this sentence have any sense at all or is it just a bunch full of „intelligent-sounding“ words? Do you actually know what „anarchy“ means? Which anarchy do you mean? I don’t see the relation between one guys’ sexuality and politics.... ??? (I’m really starting to doubt on your age or intelligence...)
"From here covetousness and greed arose to push for the establishment of numerous industries built for the purpose of stirring up passions such as sexual tourism, the making of lewd films, the promotion of sexually gratifying instruments and other things."
Do I understand you correctly: From what you write covetousness and greed arise from confusion, which arises from ...homosexuality? ...Or from the concept of the Hereafter and..oh yeah, some „other issues“..? Could you please define „other issues“?
In my knowledge there are much more heterosexuals that do sexual tourism and sex crimes than homosexuals! Homosexuality is not a crime. It doesn’t harm anybody as I know...Maybe it did really harm you at some time in your life, is that so?
Oooh ok I admit... I’m a heterosexual and ....I have a vibrator...oh my god! Is that possible?? Maybe I’m a homosexual!!?? No no, that’s ONLY because of all these homosexuals! If they were not on this planet I wouldn’t need a vibrator! What am I gonna do now???
"The result is the destructions of the concept of family and its values and confusion arose about appropriate kinds of relationships between males and females to the point that we see families being formed from two males or two females. "
...But fortunately we have Ai from Japan, you’re our only hope of survival!
"Thinking of the wisdom behind prohibiting homosexuality and lesbianism, the following can be said:
First, such acts lead to the spread of passivity among the young generation and destruction of their morality."
Is that your own theory? I want proofs that the prohibition of homosexuality would avert the passivity among the young generation and the destruction of their morality. I’m not sure about that, but this would need a verification/falsification. You could do an experiment or some further research on that topic. Is there any passivity in the young generations at all anyway??? Never heard of that!
"Second, it destroys the lives of women whose husbands leave them in pursuit of this perversion and they, in turn, try to find a way to satisfy their sexual needs. In such case, the whole society will be chaos. "
What about the hetero-men who beat their wives up? ? Homosexual husbands don’t seem to be the only reason for the unhappiness of their wives. Your statement is just simple-minded.
"Third, it is a fierce attack on progeny and pregnancy,whose natural order is to increase the human race."
First: So what’s your problem with that? You should be glad that these „harming and destructing species“ don’t reproduce...!
Second: There are more than enough humans on this planet... Look at China! There are so many that each family is not allowed to have more than one child. Hey, we should send all homosexuals there, this could resolve their demographic porblem ;-)) (Oh look, I put up a theory! Did you bring up yours as fast, too??)
Fourth, the dangerous diseases that are caused by it are unavoidable and fatal.
Ooooh now you’re making me tremble.....
"Homosexual men suffering from HIV/AIDS also suffer from other cancers and lymphomas. One study published in the Annuls of Medicine noted the connection between homosexual AIDS patients and Hodgkin’s disease. The study concluded, “An excess incidence of Hodgkin’s disease was found in HIV-infected homosexual men.” The Journal of Clinical Oncology published a study that further supports a connection between homosexual male AIDS patients and Hodgkin’s disease.
Homosexual males are also at elevated risk for anal cancer. A likely possibility is that chemicals in the lubricants used to facilitate anal intercourse are a factor associated with this disease. Researchers R.J. Ablin and R. Stein-Werblowsky describe sperm and seminal plasma as capable of promoting cancer, and suggest that this accounts for the increase in cancer among people practicing anal sex.
One article in the New England Journal of Medicine commented, "Our study lends strong support to the hypothesis that homosexual behavior in men increases the risk of anal cancer: 21 of the 57 men with anal cancer (37 percent) reported that they were homosexual or bisexual, in contrast to only one of 64 controls." The Journal of the American Medical Association also published similar findings: "Epidemiological studies have shown that risk factors for anal cancer include homosexuality, history of receptive anal intercourse, presence of anal condylomata, and smoking." And the International Journal of Cancer stated, "Being single and having practiced anal intercourse appears to be associated with anal cancer and case reports have suggested a recent increase in the number of cases of anal cancer."
Another article published in the Journal of the American Medical Association stated that, “…studies indicate that immunosuppressed male homosexuals have a high prevalence of anal human papilomavirus infection and anal intra-epithelial neoplasia, and this population may be at significant risk for the development of anal cancer.”
Along the same lines, an article in the New England Journal of Medicine concluded: “Anal intercourse may predispose to anal cancer through the transmission of an infection, most probably infection with human papillomavirus.” "
I don’t need to analyse this paragraph because the whole content is just too irrelevant. Do you even understand all these articles „you’ve read“? You can really insert this text into your a**, you know what I mean? ;-)
I strongly doubt that you understand a single word that you cite above, otherwise you would have recognized that this is absolutely NO means to offense homosexuals! To me, these articles (or part of some articles) are meant to avert people –and not only homosexuals, but heterosexuals too – the risks and to take their precautions.
There are so many deseases in this world and all are not coming from anal-sex practicing homosexuals! And you concentrate on a few irrelevant facts that you happen to find somewhere just to offense and despise people that you just don’t understand and don’t know at all. You think you are right? You don’t know a thing and this text is the ultimate proof... You just find facts, copy-paste, interprete and put them deliberately in any connection which suits you and your distorted thoughts.
Homosexuals are not at all different from those who have been conditioned to fornicate, or commit theft or murder, or who have become addicted to watching pornography. All of these are destructive habits that one learns through continuous exposure or conditioning. So one must ask himself whether he would prefer to continue in this destructive behavior or change himself?
In conclusion,there is no doubt that this act of making men content with men and women with women,goes against the pure human nature,by adversely affecting the birth rate, causing the spread of killer diseases, harming the innocence when children are raped,and generally spreading corruption on earth, should be uprooted and stamped out."
You really compare homosexuals with criminals? Is that not the most grotesque thing I’ve ever read! I know some homosexual men and they are the most lovely creatures I’ve ever known (except that sometimes they can be quite bitchy, heheh). And you blame them for all crimes and deseases on earth! Even the fact that you compare „porn-addicted“ to criminals is just dumb, really. Every normal man watches porn and a lot of women too. Sex is the oldest and (still) one of the best selling product on this planet. Have you ever thought clearly for one second? I really believe that you are some wind-headed religious closed-minded girl/boy.
„Causing the spread of killer deseases“? Do you really refer to the anal-cancer thing? If so, here are some news: Cancer is not contagious! And by the way, you as ideal heterosexual can get any cancer, too.... ;-)
And your last sentence I think is the best...in summary: all you write there is completely incoherent with homosexuals!! If you think that they rape children, then you should go find some more articles on that topic....while corruption on earth doesn’t have ANYTHING to do with one’s sexual preference! Haha, this is really funny though, how did you get to that? I must admit you’re quite creative. I don’t know why anyone should take your comment seriously at all actually. I hope you even understood what I wrote now and don’t need to explain it to you all over again...
In conclusion, I have nothing to say against your oppinion, but you think that throwing some nerd and technical words will back-up your oppinion and make it some kind of researched scientific paper. Well sorry, but it isn’t that easy. It needs more than just copying/pasting articles of any kind to prove some weird theories. It’s not difficult to read articles but it’s difficult to understand them, interprete them correctly and to put them in a sensitive context. And you can't just refer to articles that approve your oppinion, you must also have a look at the counterpart in order to make up an objective statement. But you're whole statement is based by one-sided facts.
Basically, what you write (respectively paste) does really sound good and intelligent, but the content is complete bullsh** honestly... You may review your thoughts or keep simply bigheaded. It’s your choice, isn’t it?
Keep trying!
Cheers to all. =)
Dear Ai,
You really do have the gift of the gab there don't you?
I certainly don't have the time nor the inclination to go on quite in the manner and fashion that you seem to have, but i do have this to say to you.
When the first man landed on the moon, he said this, "One small step for man, but one giant leap for mankind".
It's the sore lack of logic, intellect and basic human understanding of the human psyche that propells individuals like yourself to be as bigoted as you have proved yourself to be.
Do not confuse being 'passionate' about a subject to sheer lack of emotional and intellectual quotient.
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